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You still think the warriors have the best starting lineup?
Timpf we need your all time bigs list
Before 2023.
It’s important
The coaching with both Boston and Utah show that it wasn’t just Ime Udoka. They had some damn good assistants and they’re showing out with BOS and UT
Doesn't help when Ainge can't give Brad the roster he wants
Don’t understand people saying Brad couldn’t bring it out of them. Celtics were young and had tons of success. This team and last years team are MUCH better than Brads Celtics.
Brad took them ECF multiple time. They were young at the point
He set the table brought it out of them… remember Brad had them too and he just could not bring it out of them. Its ok to say that Ime was good and that does not take away from the current guy at all. It’s a Mark Jackson and Steve Kerr type situation. One set the foundation the other built the house. They both did a great job
i could coach jayson and jaylen to an ECF
College student who’s a warriors fan here, I can’t watch every game but Jason is the absolute best when it comes to analyzing the game and his perspective on who has been playing bad and who has been playing good. Would never had know how good wiseman played yesterday to know that there is improvement or Moody has been working on his shot or how good the rest of the young guys look durning the season. God bless you Jason 🙏
I’ve been tryna tell y’all about this Celtics team… last year they lost to warriors, even as a die hard Celtics fan I expected that to happen. Regardless of who had the more talented team the warriors were far more experienced and that is a really big deal. Now not only does Boston have that experience, they got a player that somehow improved their already elite roster in Brogdon.
I’ve had Boston winning the chip this whole year but I want to recognize and appreciate Jason being willing to talk about this team and recognize they very well may be better than both of the teams he thought were the finals favorites. I don’t want sports analyst changing their picks everyday but being able to admit a team is better than even you thought over a long period of time gives your current takes/opinions credibility.
I love the show and appreciate you as always Jason!
And rob williams isn’t even back, crazy to think about.
I see rob Williams filling most of the Kornet/Griffin and some of grants minutes. I think especially cause his injury is one that lingers he’ll be a 20 minute a night player to make sure he’s fresh for the playoffs. I agree that he’s a great look to have, but he shouldn’t be playing 25-30 min a night. He’s really critical against any team that plays zone coverage because vertical spacing is so much more effective against it, and he’s our biggest threat there against teams like the heat. In the heat series last year he was our second most impactful player in my opinion, any game he played well we won, and Miami doesn’t really have an answer for him. I think he’d also be useful against the bucks with their size, and cavs 2-big look too, but against teams like the warriors he’s definitely a burden at times.
As a Warriors fan, at first, I really thought it was a depressing loss and still think JP was foul twice at the end and just maybe we could have escaped alive. That said, it is encouraging to see the effort! They played nothing like the 2 lifeless losses we had against the Pelicans without our starters. I absolutely love JK's energy especially on defense. We will gel soon. The Western conf is still very open and we are coming, sooner rather than later.
@Tuff00 only if it's worth it. I wouldn't trade anyone except Wise at this point. The market is not great though. Let's see how the next 2 games go.
Fr we need to trade Wiseman and some more guys/ picks for more depth tho
Back for best basketball analysis on ESclips…
no u
@Shane Scott
Gotta tap into the pod.
@Ty Johnson yeah but they don't post enough
@Nicholas Leventis first take fell off years ago
100%. Stopped watching shit like first take, this is much better
Love the videos but can we get some grizzlies coverage please. They’re quietly sitting near the number 1 spot in the west (likely to be tied at number 1 after tomorrows games) and haven’t even played a single game with their full starting 5 yet.
This guy gives the best basketball analysis anywhere.
Bro said New Orleans Hornets brought back a memory of me going to a game as a kid🥲
I think it's time for the suns to part ways with cp3, his offense only come and goes these days and he's a terrible defender atp in his career. I would move him or bench him, but next season so everything could be sorted out and understand during the off-season just in case him or a teammate gives u pushback u don't cause any distraction or lose chemistry this season. Love cp3 tho
How are you not going to call out Klay for just walking away from Malik to allow that wide open 3? For no reason at all Klay just wondered into the lane and did nothing as if was Westbrook.
Worse no one from the team either on the court or on the bench even looked at him or called him out on it.
Klay's not the same player but neither he or the team wants to recognise it. His chucking in the game was horrific as was his defense for the most part. I know they had that team meeting a few weeks ago but he's back to his old ways it seems. It will probably look better when Steph or Dray is back but on the court and in his head the Klay issue is one of the roots of this teams problems.
Also enough is enough Kuminga needs to be given 20+ minutes a night guaranteed. As long as he brings the defensive and rebounding effort consistently he deserves more offensive touches outside of Wiggins he's the only player who can apply real rim pressure. He won't save their season by himself but he can go a long way to improving their chances to win games if he plays more.
KD has been a great defender this year. Great on ball, help defense and rim protection. He’s top 10 in blocks per game. He should make his first all defensive team this year. He’s also having a career year in fg% 55 %
Does he deserve a spot over Tatum or Giannis though? Jokic will get the nod at 5 Giannis at 4 and then Tatum (currently mvp favorite) at the 3 I don’t see KD getting first team this year despite him playing amazing. Maybe if Tatum just falls of a cliff. But if history has taught us anything he just gets better the second half of the season.
Wasn’t an extra pass. NAW’s pass to Beasley was a set play for the corner 3. Chris finch ran that same play in the playoffs (I believe) for Beasley to hit a game tying 3 that sent the game to OT. As a warriors fan that sucked to see but it’s a hell of a play call and was really cool to see
I still think Lakers would be number 1 in the west if they did the Westbrick for Buddy and turner trade now they are looking at half measure moves.. The Lakers could win the west.. Beating the Celtics or Bucks is another story but those two teams are going to have a brutal series to get out of the east so anything is possible.
Yeah I think linings and Poole will be the future of this team, the other talent will be gone or in a supporting role.
I would love to see visuals/clips to illustrate your points, Jason. But I guess production time wouldn't permit it. Still one of the best on YT.
I remember ppl laughing at my face when I told them I had faith in Brad Stevens being elevated into the GM position for the Celtics, and ppl especially SAS said that Brad shouldn't have been elevated, and that he questioned Brad being deserved of that opportunity, using the race card saying "It's beautiful to be a white guy". But I digress....
Last year was just a measuring stick as to where this team could be, and now they're on a demolition tour to get the job done.
Kerr has done his best to crush Kuminga's confidence you can see the tentativeness in his play.
@Ben Den Kuminga isn’t too good at getting his own shots yet he’s still pretty awkward on that end
@Gee Andrezziidk man he’s actually not bad when it comes to passing it to the open shooter when he drives. It’s just most of the time no one is open so he ends up passing it back to a covered guy on the perimeter. Kuminga’s “low IQ offensive” just doesn’t show up for me, I don’t see what he is doing wrong.
@Ben Den GSW entire offense is built on BALL-MOVEMENT. You literally just proved the point. He’s trying to develop Kuminga’s IQ as a basketball player. So that if/when Kuminga replaces draymond, he can flourish like Draymond and Iggy do creating for OTHERS, not just himself.
@Gee Andrezzi He is one of the few players on the team that can create his own shot, playing inside and out. Kerr should be playing him in the dunker spot. If he can figure out how to use him then trade the guy.
Kerr is trying to teach dude to play smarter. Kuminga is so low IQ offensively. All he does is try to blow by defenders and he misses wide open teammates half the time
I would like to see the Nets healthy and with about 20 games with everyone. They’ve shown spurts of really good basketball in a few games.. 30+ assists in a few consecutively..
@Thorfinn986_doesn't_do_average they haven’t been healthy, Seth, tj, yuta, Ben and kyrie suspension, all have been in and out the line up
They are healthy now,have been for a while,just that they are still playing it light with that Diva Simmons.
Absolutely love this channel
The irony: Golden State wanted a big down low who could dominate and use his physical gifts as they have no one like Wiseman from a physique perspective on their roster. Come to find out Wiseman hates physicality and wants to play like a guard. I've never seen such a huge guy be so soft and clueless about going and grabbing the ball. He's always slow to defend, like he's thinking so much of what the coaches say that the play passes him by. As soon as he can show that he can be physical, block out a defender, BLOCK the opposition and be aggressive defensively-I'll be excited about him. But I think he's absolutely, unfortunately, a bust for the Warriors. May not be for a different coach.
Game day update! Warriors dominated the Celtics tonight!
That lakers win from the nets, was a given, a back to back game, and KD was the only one playing from their starters
PHX doesn't look good at all they were embarrassing against Dallas too. But Boston is on another level this season.
Trust Jason to find a way to talk about the Lakers during a segment that doesn't involve them.
Finally the nets get some attention 😭 they been better than the lakers yet they aint been gettin no shine
i like kuminga. has the physical tools to be two beast
that was Suns last year came off a final lost.... killing it within the RS but come in the PO.....went flat........
That was a foul on the Poole strip
Boston didn’t “damn near blow it” against Milwaukee. Milwaukee had a chance to close it out in 6 at home and blew it. A subtle difference, but it was Milwaukee’s conference to lose and they lost it.
Nets, told yall they would be fine. Imagine thinking a team with KD wouldn't be relevant. Smdh
Boston’s second unit with Tatum or Brown has been fukin great - White, Brogdon, Hauser, Kornet + jb/jt
Definitely liked what I saw from kuminga last night
you ignore that the jazz were missing their 2 best players as well of course
He literally said that at 14:28
Wasn’t an extra pass. NAW’s pass to Beasley was a set play for the corner 3. Chris finch ran that same play in the playoffs (I believe) for Beasley to hit a game tying 3 that sent the game to OT. As a warriors fan that sucked to see but it’s a hell of a play call and was really cool to see
JP definitely got fouled twice but ok!! Not sure why folks sweeping it under the rug..
Always a pleasure to listen in
“Dominated Golden State for three games.”
Did we watch the same series? Warriors were up double digits the entire game up until the fourth where grant, Horford, and white did not moss from 3 for thehalf of the fourth… which was statistically insane
Book is going through a rough stretch, but as a Pels fan I’m so proud of Dyson Daniels having excellent defense on him and so many other star players up to this point, incredibly Herb Jones like
this guy is so good
Wiseman’s best game? He played 5 mins lol
A ton of Celtic love from JT. Brogdon/Hauser are a sizeable upgrade from Pritchard, who played every playoff game last season. Tatum/Brown have yet to hit their prime so they are still improving, expect that to continue. Everyone is signed (except Grant, which BOS holds RFA rights) so the rest of the NBA should buckle in. If Brown makes All-NBA, he'll get the Super MAX. Then the Celtics will be cemented into a 5yr run. The Warriors can answer this by adding two +++defenders, they have the assets in Wiseman/Moody to add Vanderbilt and Poeltl. Kerr doesn't have the time to develop them + it's not really fair to the W's or the kids. If they do that they will have a really strong 9 man group. Boston can always play Brook Lopez off the floor when they go Grant/Horford at the 4/5 and go 5 wide.
@alpha Acquaye thats what o said pritchard is better then Hauser his abilities just isn't needed as much
@kxrty you’re right but it’s easier play Hauser because he’s 6”6 so not as big as a liability plus we already got smart brogdon nd white so it’s tough for him to get minutes
@C Mac mmm defender is about even and shooting is even but pritchard can run an offence. Hauser is a spot of shooter. Pritchard is a logo 3 threat with a great handle and passing ability he can score at all 3 levels with great shot creation ability
@kxrty I like Pritchard but Hauser is a better shooter and defender
Pritchard is better then Hauser and a very good secondary guard. Boston just happens to have the best guard rotation in basketball
this dude cover every warriors game love the anylisis u logical an smart but seesh!
The graphics are a nice touch
Tf you be talking about, dude plays one year and college and swears he can talk bout teams
New Orleans Hornets...
Poole was fouled twice on the last play
Real talk. You need your own show
New top dog? They’ve been Top Dog all year.
Boston realizes they blew a title last year, and they look focused on not making that mistake again.
Olynyk fell on top of JP on that final in bounds. That's a very clear foul. Dude just takes him out like a middle linebacker and the refs just let it happen. Not saying that GSW shouldn't have been better down the stretch but JP was clearly, clearly fouled.
Ws game was fun, 11-11 eh they'll be fine. JK was a beast nice to see him get some run, Wiseman was fine.
Jk made it exciting. Loved the bench playing hard. Didn’t expect a good game. Happy
Teeheehee JT you said New Orleans Hornets 🤣 I still fuck that up from time to time. Glad you're keeping it real, no edits. I love your breakdown, always learn something more either Xs and Os or psychology. Keep it going!
With the Jays as the main leaders… it is your job to develop you game, because they are… every single off season… Hauser, Grant, White, Smart… if there is a hole in your game, Fix it.
you’re wrong in your analysis about rob man
Talk about the Pelicans man. Wtf😭😭
i agree that boston has to prove they can execute consistently in the playoffs
@Anthony Yusef they made it that far without being consistent
They did make it to the finals and had a 2-1 lead...I consider that a deep playoff run
I understand what you're trying to say but please stop trying to imply that the Celtics are better off without Rob. They aren't.
idk abt this rob thing... im open to the idea of him gambling too much - love to see some stats that back that up.
im skeptical tho bc celtics posted a 120 offensive rating (abt what they are doing now) over the second half of last szn. so they were as good w him last yr as they are this yr on offense. also they had the number #1 defense last yr w rob and have slipped some this yr without him.
The thing abt 5 out offense is that it requires great collective decision making on when to screen/cut/slip/drive/relocate/etc. they are making better decisions this yr and thats why its working out (if this translates in playoffs nobody is beating them). without that it can be pretty stagnant if you have 5 guys jus passing around on the perimeter. line ups w kornet tatum n the bench have been effective (partly bc brogdon n tatum get to go against teams second unit) bc the 4 out 1 in breaks the rhythm of 5 out and forces action towards rim more naturally.
Cs are fine w/o him so im sure they'll manage his minutes and ease him back into the fold as to make sure he stays healthy n not disrupt what they got going now.
@Steven Taylor right! lol 1 big lineups w rob switiched everything n double big was stifling defensively. size and versatility everywhere w two rim protectors 3 if you include tatum.
he'll probably come off the bench to start n replace kornet in the 4 out 1 lineup. brogdon hauser tatum grant n rob is going to be deadly on both sides of the ball
@Taylor yep 120 and up😂😂 dk how the narrative is getting swung just bc dude doesn’t like double big when if u think ab it they were switching everything w rob, and played drop without him. so by his logic he should love rob.
@Steven Taylor wrd and not just 1st. it was the same record setting number that it is this yr
@Taylor yea that was a bad take, 1st in offensive rating after january with rob in the lineup last year. this idea that double big doesn’t work was proved wrong last year.
my boy wrking hard to find something negative to say abt the celtics. "worried rob is going to make them worse" is a terrible take lol
they switch w rob when he's not injured btw
Man stop talking so much about lakers they didn’t even play last night. Love the analysis tho keep it up
Lakers gets the most views let man get his money
Season doesn't start until Christmas. Relax
Hey Tim, did you watch pre game? Hes actually shooting now
Good point about Robert Williams. I think they are better off bringing him off the bench because their starting lineup is unguardable right now. The ability to have 5 shooters on the floor and play 5 out basketball has really elevated the Celtics into such a historical offensive juggernaut.
There's a million reasons Williams should be a bench player. First and foremost, I'm 99% sure he'll have another injury before the season even ends, and I don't want them screwing up the chemistry and spacing they have for a temporary starter.
@C Mac with the looks that they are able to create for each other I wouldn’t be surprised if the drop off is only minimal. Part of the reason these guys are shooting lights out is because of how clean the looks are.
Boston will be really good playing 1 IN/ 4 OUT (as we've seen with Luke). They will be more balanced OFF/DEF. Their 3pt shooting is due to regress lower unless you believe they have 4 of the TOP 10 3pt shooters in the NBA
Warriors are done and crispy just like fried chicken
i think JK can be a giannis if he gets a bit competitive andd aggressive
That's why I say you don't know what you're talking about sometimes such as Giannis being a better player than Curry. Nets beat the New Orleans Hornets? You can't even get the team name right
This guy keep bringing up the lakers when he talk about the Celtics, this guys suck, always comparing Celtics players with lakers, lakers is no where close to the Celtics this season.
Boston is starting to share the ball, that's the difference in basketball.
Looks like Tatum still calls Draymond daddy
Sorry man, any team with Chris Paul as it's leader, just won't have the constitution to not let go of the rope.
Bro just say New Orleans Hornets
The C’s are ready to take the mountain.
Warriors are done
golden state ducking celtics smoke saturday sitting guys for no reason
@Lupe A no man you tripping
@NBA 876 why you using red shade in your pic? You hiding your herrrrpes?
@NBA 876 it will be a tough series but i got the Cs. Led by the jays they're 2-0 vs bucks in the playoffs (not including the yr kyrie quit on them).
everybody talks abt bucks missing middleton but they dont talk abt smart n rob missing games for Cs.
we'll see
@NBA 876are steph n draymond injured?
Boston Celtics ain't making past the bucks anyway
On the point about the Celtics bashing everyone in after a finals disappointment... didn't the Suns do the exact same thing last year? It's not a guarantee to win after that
Kessler is already twice or three times the player Wiseman is which is crazy to say.
Wiseman is a terrible defender. TRADE HIM
Guy really just said the Lakers are better than the Nets. These Laker fans don’t understand how delusional they are.
WTF did you call the Hornets?? The New Orleans Hornets? Catch up man.
Boston ain't making past warriors and the bucks
Bro is always trying to minimize what Boston does
He is usually hyping the Celtics up, I disagree. He minimizes what the Bucks are doing much more imo.
@Jimmy Jay NOOO KIZZZY FAM
Only the Title matters
Boston Celtics is weak my guy
Boston Celtics just like suns regular season team
The suns did the same thing year before last, exactly the same as what Boston is doing now. Hungry because of a finals loss
@NBA 876... You do know they got to 6 games in the FINALS last year? I think Philly resembles that far more than the Celtics
Celtics are fools gold. You’d be a fool to bet on or put belief in the Celtics winning the chip.
Bucks the best team
Can't wait to see.. Celtics are playing the best right now though.