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Fantastic Beasts and Where it Went Wrong

  • Publicado el 18 abr 2017
  • An essay examining the mistakes of Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them by comparing it to Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone.
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    "Story" by Robert McKee:
    Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them - "Main Titles"
    Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them - "Newt Says Goodbye to Tina / Jacobs Bakery"
    Jazz Blues Hip Hop Instrumental - "Just Chill" (Chill Bill Beats)
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Comentarios • 1 638

  • Rhino in a suit
    Rhino in a suit Hace 28 días

    If you put/edit both Fantastic Beasts movies it would just be act 1 or just act 1 and a half, it's missing a lot. I'd be ok with it if it was a tv series, it would make sense then.
    edit: I think J.K Rowling is better at writing a story than screenplays.

  • Nidonite36
    Nidonite36 Hace un mes

    *Knocks prequels for overusing same, tired formula.*
    *Knocks Fantastic Beasts for not using same, tired formula with their protagonist and a predictable villain.*

  • EK Blackwell
    EK Blackwell Hace 2 meses

    Newt is a bad 11th Doctor ripoff, from personality and quirks to his costume to his promo shots and body language. Rowling obviously saw how well Matt Smith did and wanted to pull that money maker into her money maker. I'm stunned we don't hear more people seeing the comparison and complaining about it. Although, a lot of her world is stuff she's taken from other places, so I guess people are just used to it.

  • Mark Burns
    Mark Burns Hace 2 meses +1

    Things have only gotten worse with the sequal 😔.

  • Mark Burns
    Mark Burns Hace 2 meses +1

    I wish jk just left the series as is rather then making a spin off (and don't even get me started on the cursed child😒).

  • ioana ilea
    ioana ilea Hace 2 meses

    Makes me sad to think about the Game of Thrones prequel. hah

  • Jonathan Williams
    Jonathan Williams Hace 3 meses

    If you thought this film had some serious problems--- oh boy, I really want to hear your thoughts on Crimes of Grindlewald.

  • Addie Fay
    Addie Fay Hace 4 meses +1

    it grinds my gear that people seem to disagree with you about newt being a "weak protagonist" by saying "we dont need strong/masculine/he-man protagonist". That is NOT the context. *A "strong protagonist" doesn't necessarily mean masculine or anything physically strong.* I think a "strong protagonist" is just a protagonist who has a solid character that we can relate to or root for.

  • Ed SR
    Ed SR Hace 4 meses

    You are so full of shist. Newt Scamander is a pretty strong protagonist.
    You know nothing Jon Snow.
    In fact everything you said is precisely the opposite of the truth

  • ValeRune
    ValeRune Hace 4 meses +1

    I was critizising about the exact same thing on a comment under another video about these movies. Someone got offended. Lmao. Hp was a masterpiece. And this is just sad

    • Gellert Grindelwald
      Gellert Grindelwald Hace 4 meses

      Remember it's 3 movies left you ungrateful bellend. And just because FB isn't as good as HP doesn't mean it's bad

  • Finlay Humberstone
    Finlay Humberstone Hace 4 meses

    U say u didn't want a remake of Harry potter and then go on to list how Jacob is a better protagonist because he is like Harry?? Also films great and I loved it and disagree with a lot that u say

  • Steak & Kidney Pie
    Steak & Kidney Pie Hace 4 meses

    "Sorcerer's stone" *vomits*

  • Retromemories
    Retromemories Hace 4 meses +1

    Could not agree more on many of these points. The two main problems I find with a lot of recent movies and TV shows are the protagonist is just not that interesting, or the movie tries to hit you with big moments when it hasn't earned it. Notable examples that come to mind are Jurassic World, The Walking Dead, the Crimes of Grindewald, and The Last Jedi.

  • ltkirov
    ltkirov Hace 5 meses

    I still didnt watch that movie

  • Alexander Brolin
    Alexander Brolin Hace 5 meses

    i saw beasts...but nothing fantastic at all. Almost as boring as azkaban

  • Sabrine Saad
    Sabrine Saad Hace 5 meses +1

    You put my thoughts into words

  • Hypnotic Poison
    Hypnotic Poison Hace 5 meses +2

    This is the first video of yours that I watched. I have to say I enjoyed it very much. The anlysis and explaining you gave helped me understand the structure of the movie better. The only thing I disagree on is that Newt is weak. He is not weak. He is just shy, introverted and soft-spoken. Not every hero has to be loud and confident. Every person is different and has different characteristics that make them special. So, these characteristics is what makes Newt special,what makes him *him* . Great work anyway! Keep on!

    • Hypnotic Poison
      Hypnotic Poison Hace 5 meses +1

      @Entertain The Elk Ooh, now I understand how you mean it. Well,you're right then, I agree with you. I've already subscribed to you, so I'm definitely going to check out your other videos,and waiting for more. :)

    • Entertain The Elk
      Entertain The Elk  Hace 5 meses

      Hey thanks so much for checking out the channel. To clarify, when I said "weak" I meant structurally weak in the script. Not physically or emotionally weak as a character. Super strong and perfect characters are boring and aren't relatable. So I agree with you! Thanks again for watching. Check out some other videos and subscribe if you want to keep up with the channel! :)

  • The Earth Is Bread
    The Earth Is Bread Hace 5 meses +1

    This is a brilliant essay about this movie. I totally agree on this. I really disliked this film and am not that interested in the sequal, from what i’ve heard, the sequal is even worse.

    • Gellert Grindelwald
      Gellert Grindelwald Hace 4 meses

      The Earth Is Bread crimes of grindelwald was much better than the first one, I actually enjoyed it

    • The Earth Is Bread
      The Earth Is Bread Hace 5 meses

      Camilo Garrido oh haha thanks a lot! I don’t have to watch it then. Impressive how they make a first movie that doesn’t hold up and then make a sequel even worse. Too bad they didn’t learn from their mistakes.

    • Camilo Garrido
      Camilo Garrido Hace 5 meses +1

      The rumors you heard were absolutely true. The crimes of Grindelwald managed to be even more boring, problematic, confusing, and had even more setup with really no payoff. It took the movie more than 2 hours just to show where the characters are now, throw in some crappy backstory, and then state which "side" each character was on. The entire movie could've been cut down to about 45 minutes. Without losing anything important

    • Entertain The Elk
      Entertain The Elk  Hace 5 meses +1

      Glad you liked the video!

  • Jack
    Jack Hace 6 meses +1

    This movie should have been rated a Certified Meh, just like it's main character Mr Meh, or whatever his name was.
    Personally I think the worst part of the movie was when Mr Meh danced the magically mating rhino dance, oinking and snorting in the process. The only conclusion I could come to watching that crap was: J. K Rowling's brain was full of FUCK, and she shared said FUCK with the rest of us... because she thought it was a good idea...
    Honestly I'm dissapointed in J.K Rowling lately...she just isn't the same woman she was in the early 2000's. She's changed, she's gone all social justice and LGBT on us her readers. Dumbledore is now gay... I mean wtf!? I could care less what Dumbledore does in the bedroom, I just liked him because he was cool as Merlins beard and wise as Yoda...

  • Sisters AG
    Sisters AG Hace 6 meses

    I don’t flippin care about the story, I care about tue characters. Not everybody lives a world-saving adventurous life, bit we do meet life-changing people, amazing friends.
    Have you stopped a moment to think that maybe this story wasn’t written for Griffindors, but for Hufflepuffs? I mean anyone can enjoy it, really, but it wasn’t meant to impress or entertain you, but show you how life and people actually interact 💁🏻‍♀️

  • Sisters AG
    Sisters AG Hace 6 meses

    Excuse me but I just have to say this, regarding the 4 points he established as what ‘we need’ to like a main character/hero. History. Do we need this in daily life to love someone? No, when we first meet someone we are either prone to like or dislike them. As we get to know them we’ll either root for them or draw away entirely. But it takes time to get to know someone. A lot of time. We have to gain confidence, respect, affection. That is what I found so unrealistic about movies lately. They drowned us with introductions and back story within the first 10 minutes of the film. I felt overwhelmed, at having to decide on my opinion of a character in such a short time. This is not a natural way to engage with the characters and definitely not how we’d do it in real life. We see people as who they are now, how the act and react in this moment. Their past and backstory doesn’t define them, it made them who they are but doesn’t represent them now.
    I am so glad we get to interact with Newt as of now, and will get to know more of his past later on. We don’t need to know everything now, we can actually enjoy the journey.

  • SmilingRhino1
    SmilingRhino1 Hace 6 meses +1

    No CoG video yet?

    • Gellert Grindelwald
      Gellert Grindelwald Hace 4 meses

      Entertain The Elk you should watch it! It was so much better

    • SmilingRhino1
      SmilingRhino1 Hace 6 meses

      @Entertain The Elk Ah, I just noticed that "end of walking dead" video I saw is also yours! Great work with your analysis! Too bad there won't be a CoG one, but as someone who think TLJ killed Star Wars I understand your position of wanting to stay away from Fantastic Beasts if you dislike them. Anyway, keep up the good work!

    • Entertain The Elk
      Entertain The Elk  Hace 6 meses

      Thanks. Maybe I'll take a run at the next film when it comes out, but I really just don't want it to taint my love for the HP franchise. That's why I did my newer video about my love for the music in Sorcerer's Stone. Check it out if you haven't already.

    • SmilingRhino1
      SmilingRhino1 Hace 6 meses +1

      @Entertain The Elk Ah, I understand. I didn't like the first one so I was not planning on watching the second. But I heard Newt improves as a character so I was curious to hear your thoughts.
      I liked your analysis a lot, few people point out the problems you describe.

    • Entertain The Elk
      Entertain The Elk  Hace 6 meses

      After hearing all the bad word of mouth, I don't plan on watching it anytime soon. Maybe once it's available to rent. Your thoughts?

  • Ashire MGTOW
    Ashire MGTOW Hace 6 meses

    Harry Potter didn't need prequel movies. Plus it doesn't have anything to do with the Fantastic Beasts book

  • Tesse Äggman
    Tesse Äggman Hace 6 meses +1

    Oh boy. You are soooo not gonna like the Crimes of Grindelwald...

    • Rounak Mahato
      Rounak Mahato Hace 6 meses

      @Entertain The Elk it's good, but very slow paced

    • Tesse Äggman
      Tesse Äggman Hace 6 meses

      It has some wonderful moments worth watching. Not worth paying for though

    • Entertain The Elk
      Entertain The Elk  Hace 6 meses

      Yeah I've heard it's not great. I don't plan on watching it. :/

  • Tom L
    Tom L Hace 6 meses +3

    It was a very, very difficult film to sit through, you summed up exactly how I felt.

  • Alexander Pechlivanidis
    Alexander Pechlivanidis Hace 6 meses +1

    This movie sucked, the next movie sucked. J.K Rowling has gone from a brilliant fantasy writer to a desperate moneygrabber

  • Fabbyy
    Fabbyy Hace 7 meses +1

    Commenting on this after watching the second movie. You guys failed so hard when you said it was bad. Its brilliant, were in for another great great ride in the wizarding world and you guys didnt even notice xD haha rewind replay and open your eyes. This is great stuff!!!! Perfect setup from the first movie to really get the story going in the second and hell... we all know the 3rd on is going to be a blast!!!!

    • Rounak Mahato
      Rounak Mahato Hace 6 meses

      @Entertain The Elk will be waiting for your video on crimes of Grindelwald

    • Entertain The Elk
      Entertain The Elk  Hace 6 meses

      I haven't watched the 2nd film yet, but I've heard its generally considered the worst of all wizarding world movies. I'll see for myself soon.

  • milkchan96
    milkchan96 Hace 7 meses

    Everyone was so ugly..newt looked like a serial killer/rapist, the lead female was just 🤢
    No personality, terrible wardrobe throughout the whole film (for everyone tbh)
    And no..basically everyone looked CREEPY af especially Cadence 🤮
    The story was so boring..I love fantasy films but this was terrible
    A wrinkle in time was horrific but I’d rather watch that than this /.\
    Terrible arch’s, no character delevopments, no sense of urgency
    I don’t understand how this movie flopped so hard..I love watching almost everything but this film was -1000% 😔

  • Tyler Shewchuk
    Tyler Shewchuk Hace 7 meses +1

    I feel like there are two different stories clashing against each other.

  • habibie amrullah
    habibie amrullah Hace 7 meses

    Well you need to read the book hun..
    And it has been explained in the crimes of Grindelwald..

  • Sandyposs
    Sandyposs Hace 7 meses +3

    Thank you, this is so cathartic, because every point you make is SO RIGHT. I felt like the only one who was left dissatisfied with the end product Fantastic Beasts gave us, in the middle of a sea of people praising it, but you were able to hit the nail on the head explaining exactly WHY this movie felt so 'off' to me.

  • Emery Hoffman
    Emery Hoffman Hace 7 meses +1

    Interesting video. I thought Newt had a lot of potential as a character, but we weren't given enough material/information to connect with him. I definitely agree that the tone was off-putting. Even the 'fun' parts weren't enjoyable because they were overshadowed by the darker parts of the movie. I'm also fairly certain I left the theater not really knowing what I just watched. I definitely couldn't tell you the plot now. Lastly, when the villain finally was revealed, I couldn't take him seriously because of how ridiculous and cheap he looked with the white hair and eye colors.
    Unfortunately, I don't hear good things about the next movie. But here's to hoping.

    • Entertain The Elk
      Entertain The Elk  Hace 7 meses

      Glad we agree! And yeah I had hope for the second installment, but I've seen early reviews and they don't sound great.

  • Marshall Wilson
    Marshall Wilson Hace 7 meses

    My two biggest problems with this movie was the tone and story. This movie was 2 hours long and had about 20 minutes of story if you stretched it out. And the tone, personally I wanted a dark movie, like darker then the seventh Harry Potter movie dark. The end battle could have been so amazing. I want to see wizards really using their powers, more fight senses and more powerful wizards. A massive fight sense at the end of the movie accommodating into a huge powerful battle between the president and grindelwald just battling it out, like just unleashing all their powers would have saved the movie. And speaking of the president, who the hell even is she??? The story should have focused on the wizarding world of America and not on catching magic animals that had nothing todo with the story. Overall I was really disappointed.

  • kay elizabeth lucille kendall

    What a load of waffle. This guy is way over thinking this and using his own personal perception to generalise to everyone's supposed view. The film was good and got better each time it is watched. The Protagonist was fine and would be boring to say what he was doing there from the beginning. Perhaps whoever put this together is quite simple when watching films, but the film viewing public at large really don't need to be as spoon fed as this person seems to need it

  • Papa Chomsky
    Papa Chomsky Hace 7 meses

    I did not like this movie but the protagonist was the strongest part of it.

  • Angi Carmen Negrila
    Angi Carmen Negrila Hace 7 meses +1


  • Maridia Monroe
    Maridia Monroe Hace 7 meses +1

    I 100% agree. Hell, when I looked at the trailer it just reeked of "trying too hard".

  • Taye Trotman
    Taye Trotman Hace 7 meses

    I actually think the secrecy about him makes him more interesting, it makes me want to learn more about him.
    However, I would agree that the lack of a constant tone was a bit annoying.

  • Anu
    Anu Hace 7 meses

    Newt was not a weak protagonist.

  • Re nz
    Re nz Hace 8 meses

    No it's a good movie if you want to make it a better movie then make your own movie,

    • Moe
      Moe Hace 7 meses

      That's not a defence

  • Ang Rza
    Ang Rza Hace 8 meses

    i low key laughed my ass off when the orphan kid handed the lady his belt to beat him

  • Myrthe Courtz
    Myrthe Courtz Hace 8 meses

    i dont agree with you at all, but i respect that you tell this. I personally love this SO MUCH, so that being said, why do i watch this :-)

  • Shiba Inu
    Shiba Inu Hace 8 meses +2

    I DID fall asleep in the first hour lmao

  • Tom Olorin
    Tom Olorin Hace 8 meses

    I disagree. It was a thoroughly bad film.
    I grew up reading Harry Potter and watching the films and loving them as much as anyone, but I've not been 'into' it for 7 years or so. For me it was a fond memory from childhood. Watching Fantastic Beasts the other day, I was expecting to be drawn back into the world again with another charming, interesting, creative adventure.
    What I sat through was a confusing story, with weak characters, weak dialogue, that relied ENTIRELY on special effects and the established popularity of the world it was set in. That woman who follows Newt into the bank- what was she doing? Who was she? She literally just appears in the movie to be the female lead, but isn't given any character at all. Her character is "random boring woman". In many scenes the "characters" (more like caricatures), who haven't been given more than 30 seconds of character building or repertoire with each other, just stare at each other in silence... what am I supposed to be reading into their expressions? I haven't been told ANYTHING about them beyond the bare basics of their jobs. Am I supposed to insert myself into one of their places? If so, why aren't they made relatable?
    As for the plot... there almost isn't one. They could have made a great adventure story about Newt, the Muggle guy and the woman, who somehow get pushed together, looking for new fantastic beasts in America (maybe there's some magic rare bird that Grindelwald is trying to capture and Newt wants to save it, and the woman wants a lead on Grindelwald, and they need a muggle because the bird flees from wizards?), but instead Newt arrives in New York with every magical beast already in his suitcase, catalogued and unmysterious, so the absurd "oh no they got out of my case thats only purpose was to keep them in so now I have to find them all on a wild goose chase for animated pokemon gos around one familiar city" plot happens... it's so low-stakes and static. Newt seems to know everything about how to find them already so there's no growth, and no real sense of danger- the black cloud of doom just seemed unthreatening (and not much of a fantastic beast), and Newt certainly didn't seem that worried about it. Grindelwald just seemed like an afterthought. He could have been a real danger to Newt, teaching Newt things about himself in an actual fight with him.
    Overall the movie just seemed badly thought out, a bit random, and had confusing (or simply absent) character motives, dialogues and stories. It didn't really feel like a story, more like a masturbatory bask in special effects for the fanbase of the wizarding world. Some things were really bizarre. It had the air of a children's movie in the shallow characters and focus on running around and special effects. But then that's interspersed with child beating? It was, in a word, chaotic. Can anyone tell me what was the moral of the story?

  • Lee Bailor
    Lee Bailor Hace 8 meses

    No it is great movie

  • Mr.Bierbaron
    Mr.Bierbaron Hace 8 meses

    I also did not like the constant shift in tone but I did like the suitcase monster scenes.

  • Sarinji7
    Sarinji7 Hace 8 meses

    In conclusion: It's a garbage movie. 3/10Dislikeable protagonist who mumbles half the time where you can't understand him.NO introduction to Wizarding World.No adherence to Monomyth. That is protagonist isn't tasked with an epic quest. Releasing a badly designed bird doesn't count.Boring characters, no backstory, no development except Kowalski.Too much CGI, it makes your eyes bleed. Why can't they use more practical effects?No villain, no recognizable monster. Just some shitty orphanage with some unrelatable freak.What were they thinking with this movie? 200 million quid for 2 hours of nonsense.

  • Diogo Neves
    Diogo Neves Hace 8 meses

    This movie is really boring, tedious characters, too many goofy moments that are not funny and the protagonist guy... urgh he's the worst thing in the movie

  • Matthew Palanca
    Matthew Palanca Hace 8 meses

    Totally agree! Newt sucks as a protagonist, and at the end of the film, he's still the same bumbling scientist we had at the beginning of the film. No real change. I loved what JK Rowling did with the original Harry Potter books, but she shouldn't have written this screenplay. She ought to have just written the Fantastic Beasts novels and then hired an actual seasoned screenwriter to adapt her work for the screen. Would've fixed a lot of what was wrong in the film.

  • Niklas Schröder
    Niklas Schröder Hace 8 meses

    your opinion became pointless when you said at the beginning "Harry potter... favourite movie series of all time". HP Films are such bad adaptations that it hurts ^^ stating they are a good series is hurting. If you prefer those kind of poorly written films, I am glad that you did not like fantastic beasts :D thanks to god, people have different tastein films.

    • Moe
      Moe Hace 7 meses

      Calm down dude he said they were fun he didn't say they were masterpieces. Also are you saying fantastic beasts IS well written?

  • electrojones
    electrojones Hace 8 meses

    Newt's obvious placement on the Asperger's spectrum is emotionally deadening. He rarely makes eye contact, and almost never makes this kind of contact with the camera/audience. He's the worst tentpole character to emerge from Hollywood in decades.

  • Robert Chambers
    Robert Chambers Hace 9 meses

    No movie is without some mistakes, but keep in mind, Newt isn't much of a fighter. I don't think it would be such a good idea to cram all of his backstory into one movie, either.
    Now I can't really say that I enjoyed Fantastic Beasts more than the Harry Potter series, but I can say that I enjoy it more than Philosopher's Stone by itstelf.
    As for the villain, it's most definitely Grindelwald, which we were meant to be unaware of until the end of the film.

  • TheGerkuman
    TheGerkuman Hace 9 meses

    I think this was an interesting piece of analysis, but no mention of the film being hurt by the random plot element and badly acted element that is Grindlewald?

  • Dhruv Banerjee
    Dhruv Banerjee Hace 9 meses

    The first movie was good, nothing more. The character development was not great, and it will be interesting to see how the second film handles this.

  • Sherly George
    Sherly George Hace 9 meses

    This is unacceptable.... Newt was amazing.... And... Harry was not super powerful himself... It was mostly luck... But newt iz on himself... Respect your opinion anyway.... And I am a fan of Newt

  • Derek Taylor
    Derek Taylor Hace 9 meses

    Well I loved it. Not looking for a Harry potter carbon copy.

  • Topboxing
    Topboxing Hace 9 meses

    Surprised by the amount of people who seem to like Newt, personally I found him boring at best and annoying at worst.
    It’s not that I don’t like the shy awkward type Neville and Luna Harry Potterwise, the young kid from Zombieland, and even Lisa from the simpsons but I just didn’t find him interesting enough for me to actually care how he got on in the film.

  • Topboxing
    Topboxing Hace 9 meses

    The main problem I had with this film is that the characters apart from the muggle just seemed too one dimensional, and as the video states I don’t get the feeling that any of the characters really changed from the start of the film, and worse I don’t really care if they do for the next film.
    It reminds me a lot weirdly of Avatar the Last Airbender vs Korra where both times I really enjoyed the world building but in the later story I just didn’t connect with the characters since they didn’t seem to have the quick wit and layers of the earlier film.

  • Karl
    Karl Hace 9 meses

    Tbf, your comparing one film to 8 film's

  • Alana Banana
    Alana Banana Hace 9 meses

    When you prefer the side characters more than the main protagonist. It just felt like a flat movie. Compared to the main hp movies it just plods along.

  • Charmiskit
    Charmiskit Hace 9 meses

    Tbh, the only thing I found terrible was not making Graves Grindelwald and instead introducing him out of nowhere in the last few minutes. Graves' charismatic and villainous performance was pretty much how I pictured Grindelwald, the guy who made Dumbledore enamored with him and dragged him into the dark arts, not some strange Depp-y guy with frosted tips (I hated Grindelwald's stupid character design before the whole Depp controversy, don't worry, like many other people).
    Was it kinda cliché and predictable? I guess so, but then again I never thought that that was something this series hasn't done before.

  • Box Fox
    Box Fox Hace 9 meses

    I don't want to come off as rude but i feel like you might have missed the entire point of Newt's personality.

  • Jerin Chacko
    Jerin Chacko Hace 9 meses

    Silly animals ? Are you kidding me?

  • Jerin Chacko
    Jerin Chacko Hace 9 meses

    Newt is more relatable and a better protagonist than Harry.

    • Moe
      Moe Hace 7 meses

      Wether Newt is better protagonist than harry or not is debatable but I think Harry is borderline objectively a more relatable character than Newt. He has more relatable motivations and he is an audience surrogate for most of the series.

  • Mike Griffon
    Mike Griffon Hace 9 meses

    I think you don't connect with the film because of the amazing portrayal of an introvert, lol. Introverts are not engaging to extroverts because they express themselves very differently, much more subtly, and those subtleties of change and growth are what Newt shows so profoundly to me.

  • Wendy Aftowicz
    Wendy Aftowicz Hace 9 meses

    i have to agree. i love the harry potter franchise and books, but this first fantastic beasts movie was rather disappointing for me...i couldn't get through the movie the first time i tried watching it b/c i couldn't figure out what the main story was and what they were trying to do, and the pace was too slow in my opinion. Maybe I was just expecting more "wizardy" stuff, but not until I starting to see stuff about the new move with the development and connection of Grindelwald, did i go back and try watching the movie again. I was able to get through it the second time, but was only more enaged b/c of the larger story i now know is supposed to be following it with the next movies.

  • Stupid Productions
    Stupid Productions Hace 9 meses

    I respect your opinion but Newt isnt meant to be the sterytotypic protagonist and the task by spending time in newts suitcase is showing what its like inside

  • Hamdi Ali hassan
    Hamdi Ali hassan Hace 9 meses

    The only bad thing I can say about this film was the Credence story line but JK being the genius that she is is probably setting up for future installments. She is the Queen of foreshadowing, like introducing the fact that Harry can talk to snakes in the first book and then have that be the last horcrux to get destroyed seven years later was something that just blew my mind so basically what I'm trying to say is that Credence will probably be more important later but if judge this movie alone I gotta say that I didn't care for that story line.
    Like I see his story and I should feel sympathy because of everything he's going through (getting beaten, being used by Graves/Grindelwald etc...) but I don't. That's the thing, I don't know what it is perhaps it's bad acting or that we don't know the character so well but I just did not at all care about him.
    As for the other stuff I agreed with 1 thing. There's no clear villain until the end of the movie and as much as I loved that surprise the story kinda suffered for it (like Disney's frozen, not to compare this with that. FB was light years better).
    As for the bag scene, you can't compare it to the Diagon Alley scene due to the fact THAT WE'VE ALREADY BEEN INTRODUCED TO THIS WORLD. I think it was more eye candy for us, she did the same in HP with Quidditch so we didn't just get to see Harry fighting evil, we get to see him enjoying himself and we're entertained as well. She killed two birds with one stone.
    Have a good day 🌸

  • Pablo Mora
    Pablo Mora Hace 9 meses

    I absolutely agree with everything, is just what I thought when I saw it. I still liked the movie but felt it all over the place. There are several major topics that somehow merge at the end but it does not let any of them really become the main topic, nor do the several make up a good one at the end. For me it was difficult to get really deep into the movie as I perceived 3 main parts, the animals, grindelwald and the obscurous; they are huge topics and could easily fill an entire movie each, that leads to lack of information and detail on all of them

  • Avry Arden
    Avry Arden Hace 9 meses

    I disagree with literally everything you said

  • Gerald Wiseman
    Gerald Wiseman Hace 9 meses

    It has been quite some time since I've seen the film but as far as I recall, there are just very minor changes in scene selection that can fix all of these complaints.
    Imagine the film is split between two stories. One story is centered around Jacob and Newt while the other around Credence. The film starts centered around Jacob walking through the city and within the first scene or two he crosses paths with Newt pretending to be a muggle man. Nothing about these two characters seems suspicious as they have their interactions leading up through the bank scenes.
    This sequence is interlaced with scenes in chronological order centered around Credence as an orphan child being subject to abuse. This could easily be an extreme, distorted version of the beginning of Harry Potter with an unknowingly magical boy surrounded by anti-magic sentiment, like the Dursley's to the extreme.
    Jumping back to Jacob, he's separated from Newt and has Newt's briefcase. As he attempts to return this briefcase we're introduced to Tina as she's tailing Newt. Just as the scene is about to end, the curiosity rises as unexplainable, unusual events are first introduced to Jacob and the audience. Something is up with Newt and this briefcase. Scene ends with the first confrontation between Newt and Tina.
    Back to Credence, he's under emotional distress and experiencing young-Harry-Potter-like magic. Strange things happening around him and Graves makes contact with Credence, offering solace.
    At this point when we jump back to Newt and crew, the events of the film can play out pretty much as they do. Except this setup goes to show the audience hints as to how an obscurus is made before it's explained through exposition. It also goes to serve as a mirror between these scenes, as magic is introduced simultaneously in both storylines. Explanations from characters in one storyline answer questions brought to light in the other storyline. And when Graves and Tina eventually cross paths, they act as a thread linking the two storylines together.
    One final benefit is that with the scenes centered around Jacob from the beginning, he feels more like a co-star than a side character. And thus when Queenie is introduced, we can have a scene where she and Jacob are having a private conversation and Queenie gives private information to Jacob about Newt. Using her gift of legilimency to extract important background information from Newt while also organically building her relationship with Jacob. Thus the audience gets clued in on details that make Newt more relatable as a protagonist and Queenie becomes more crucial to the setup of the films.

  • Joh Quillo
    Joh Quillo Hace 9 meses

    Let's add the creatures are like pokemon

  • Superiorer
    Superiorer Hace 9 meses

    I hated all the comedy. It felt forced and the stupid animals were just stupid and not funny. The whole theather was laughing tho, so most people liked it.

  • Anupam Potdar
    Anupam Potdar Hace 9 meses

    Wow!! Loved the video. I had really liked fantastic beasts but I just didn't fall in love with it and couldn't explain why. You have so perfectly put what's missing in the movie. Also I never understood when I watched it for the first time that "Grindelwald" and the obscuris was the most important point of the movie, and that's where it was going to move forward. I was quite confused about the actual story. Which I didn't understand until I saw it again and watch a few videos about the movie

  • interesting
    interesting Hace 9 meses

    I’m a huge Harry Potter fan but I hated this movie so much, I really wanted to like it or even enjoy it...I didn’t, it was boring

  • Angela Hsiao
    Angela Hsiao Hace 9 meses

    Your criticism of Newt’s character is a criticism of him not following a Hero’s Journey. I think that restricting protagonists to that checklist doesn’t let you appreciate stories that stray from that, and makes “good” heroes all seem samey

  • Ruel Prakash
    Ruel Prakash Hace 9 meses

    True Analysis..👍👍👍

  • I MP
    I MP Hace 9 meses

    What you say about the protagonist not being a strong and engaging one is provably the thing that is being more praised of the film, which is find ridiculous. They even said that he has the good type of masculinity compared to most male protagonists.

    • Entertain The Elk
      Entertain The Elk  Hace 9 meses

      When I say "weak", I mean structurally in the script. Not physically or emotionally.

  • Gilmartin Pares
    Gilmartin Pares Hace 9 meses

    Wow your analysis of the characters and their development is way way way off my man this movie is fantastic (pun intended) it wasn't the typical hero journey but all of them had journey nonetheless

  • KimOlson1993
    KimOlson1993 Hace 9 meses +1

    I totally understand what you're saying.

    • Entertain The Elk
      Entertain The Elk  Hace 9 meses +1

      Wow, thanks for binging my videos! I've seen 6 comments. :)

  • KimOlson1993
    KimOlson1993 Hace 9 meses +1

    Casting Johnny Depp?

  • Omricon
    Omricon Hace 9 meses

    I find it interesting how you complain about Hollywood making prequels with the same story beats, and then when Fantastic Beasts doesn't do that you say the first hour is a snooze and the protagonist is weak. In fact, I completely disagree. Firstly, the first hour is building up a seemingly similar, yet very different part of the wizarding universe, which takes time. Secondly the protagonist isn't weak at all. Sure, he's an introvert. However this doesn't make him weak at all, and in fact makes him strong in the setting this movie sets. Jacob is meant to be the familiar side of the story, hence why people like him so much. However that's only until Newt gets the confidence to open up to the others. Not everyone is extroverted, and its refreshing to se an introverted protagonist for once. One who through all his 'introvertness' still gleams of masculinity, just not the stereotypical masculinity one usually sees in Hollywood and other fiction.

  • Chris James
    Chris James Hace 9 meses

    Newt has all of the qualities you listed... I'm going to bet that what you didn't like about him was that he wasn't the usual action man. He's apprehensive and caring, not bold and violent.

    • Moe
      Moe Hace 7 meses

      Newt would be a good protagonist for Fantastic beasts and where to find them. The problem is this movie isn't about the beasts it's about setting up a Grindelwald movie.

    • Chris James
      Chris James Hace 9 meses

      @Entertain The Elk I suppose that's better, though personally I don't feel his writing creates problems for the structure of the movie. If there are structural problems it's with how disconnected the Barebone family plot is until the final act but I could deal with that because it even being included meant it was going to be important somehow by the end and trying to be too heavy handed with it might have been worse.

    • Entertain The Elk
      Entertain The Elk  Hace 9 meses +1

      Absolutely not. My complaint is that he's weak structurally in the script. No complaints about his physical or emotional nature.

  • BioDiver
    BioDiver Hace 9 meses +1

    You forgot to mention that most of the backstory was more blatant fanservice than anything.

  • ivan djordic
    ivan djordic Hace 9 meses

    Dude plz STFU

  • Frname
    Frname Hace 9 meses +1

    I hated this movie. And I hate to say it, since I love the Harry Potter franchise

  • Viewer
    Viewer Hace 9 meses +1

    Harry Potter fans are like Armys huh... ugh but I love this book series so much !

  • Viewer
    Viewer Hace 9 meses +1

    Omg the middle of this movie made me almost fall fucking asleep like omggggg newt is so boring

  • Siim Koger
    Siim Koger Hace 9 meses +1

    For the first time ever I feel a deep connection with a lead character so I loved him :p

  • Random guyanimations
    Random guyanimations Hace 9 meses +1

    I hate fantastic beast

  • pablo emanuel
    pablo emanuel Hace 9 meses

    The movie is not called Newt Scamander and when to find him
    So it doesn't matter if he is not a strong protagonist (although I think it is a great caracter)

  • Marco Barros
    Marco Barros Hace 9 meses +1

    My complaints with the movie can be summed up in one sentence.
    I would rather watch two hours of Newt actually searching for the beasts.
    *Lack of coherent villain*
    I loved the movie but I think that they really struggled without having a clear mold to fit the movie in. They know that four more movies are coming so they have to setup later threats. It lacked a 'glue' for all the plot elements. In the first half of the movie the beasts are the focus and we get to know that Newt wants to protect them. Here we see that the beasts are in no danger because the government is no real danger to the beasts. The villain that we will see in the next movie is the real threat. If the villain was actually trying to hunt the beasts and kill them (maybe succeeding in killing one) that would make the villain feel as it was not only a way of having a big action scene in the end.
    *Gluing the themes*
    The film could have tied the themes of segregation and racism against the non wizards with the magical beasts. The reason why people feared the beasts was because they didn't understand them like Newt does. The same thing goes for how wizards see non wizards. The movie definitely tried to do this as we can see at the end where one wizard and a non wizard get in a relationship. Thus making progress in ending such racist policies. The same thing is less powerful looking at the side of the bests plot line. The moment where Newt freed the beast was nowhere near as powerful as it could be because we never felt like it was a reward.
    *How it could be fixed*
    If we saw the villain not only manipulating the kid to go on a rampage but also manipulated the government to hunt the beasts. Just inventing a stupid reason like "This stupid animal has the power to ruin my plans" would help the ending a lot. They could have used one of the beasts to defeat/discover the villain and thus earning the right to be free without being hunted.
    Sorry for the rant but I feel like this is the fault that makes so that a small minority really dislikes this movie. I liked this movie a lot and for me personally the good points outweighs the bad so much (I love the character arc of the sidekick actually getting laid) that it feels as a duty to protect the film. I can clearly understand the flaws but most people know the flaws and still enjoy it as much as I do.
    +Fantastical movie
    -Terrible villain/threat.
    -Two stories
    ps: Maybe I will make a video about the good points of the movie ;)

    • Entertain The Elk
      Entertain The Elk  Hace 9 meses +1

      Thanks Marco! And thanks for the well thought out comment. I agree with many points. :)

    • Marco Barros
      Marco Barros Hace 9 meses +1

      Loved your video by the way! Nice seeing some well spoken criticism. That is what actually motivates me the most to make a good comment so I can respect this video. I disagree with you on this being a bad film and I think that the fault is more in the overarching plot (not the lore) instead of bad film making but I respect you! Definitely subbed

  • Landfantasia
    Landfantasia Hace 9 meses +1

    Brother if u think this one was bad (and it was a horrible movie) wait until the next, is a WTF is this woman doing.

  • Peter Müller
    Peter Müller Hace 10 meses +2

    Very interesting and fascinating analysis. Thanks!!
    I was always some kind of 'underwhelmed' by the movie and find some of my feelings expressed here.
    BUT: I'm also optimistic about the future 'fantastic beasts'-movies because i felt similar with the first Harry-Potter-movie (and book) and grew to love the sequels. The Philosopher's Stone (book and consequently movie) also shows that Rowling needed to learn writing .... BUT BOY SHE DID!! With every following book her characters, stories, arcs, relationships, descriptions, flow, .... became just better.
    Therefore I'm excited about the coming 'fantastics....'

  • Casey Berridge
    Casey Berridge Hace 10 meses +3

    I believe this film wasn't great because it was the introduction to the fantastic beasts franchise. I really believe the franchise as a whole will give harry potter a run for its money!

  • Barney Quinn
    Barney Quinn Hace 10 meses

    ESclips lagged I thought this had Dashie in this.

  • Deborah Camilleri
    Deborah Camilleri Hace 10 meses +1

    I highly disagree because there are another 4 films for the characters to develop. This film was about Newt's creatures and the Obscurisc and the writers want to develop his character and other characters in further films which obviously havent come out yet.
    Also, the Harry potter films are NOT canon meaning that the books are correct whilst the films are not. The tone is also unbalanced because we get to see aged-wizards' struggles in the Muggle / wizard world.
    Also that Setup and Payoff scene full of creatures mught be a setuo for other films just like we learned more about Harry and Voldemorts wand connect in BOOK 4 onwards. Watch this video after the 5th film comes out and I hope you ll feel less disappointed

  • Espen Sales
    Espen Sales Hace 10 meses +1

    Very well made. This put words to what's been nagging me in the back of my head, it was very insightful!

  • Cucerenco Dumitriţa
    Cucerenco Dumitriţa Hace 10 meses

    The author should watch "The fantastic masculinity of Newt Scamander"

  • polite critique
    polite critique Hace 10 meses +1

    Newt copied Dr who role